another reason I don't want a mac.

browsing twitter, I ran across This article that annoys me. According to the article apple will be adding even more restrictions on their apps, in what they can access on the mac computers as of march 2012. Their calling it the “sandbox”. I have a sneaking suspicion we’ll soon be seing jailbroken mac OS lions soon to remove all these stupid restrictions, just like the iphone and IOS has.
We’ll soon see, but until then, sorry I’m not getting a mac, apple can ram it right up their asses.
I want complete, unrestricted access to my computer and it’s functions, and not be dictated to by a company on what my application or applications can or cannot access, thank you very freakin’ much.
I shouldn’t have to justify why I have to have access to the interfaces for the network cards, or the local folders to read and write to, it’s unnecessary and in my opinion uncalled for. Yes the app stores the only place people may go to get apps now, but just like the IOS app store, their will come out jailbroken versions of the OS that’ll remove the sandbox restrictions, and let non app store applications work again. In the beginning we won’t need it according to the article, because applications that aren’t in the mac app store will still work, but the sad fact is sooner or later apple will remove all ability to run applications not bought through the mac app store, and then it’ll be jailbreak time, kids. The comment boards await you.
Note to the appleheads, I don’t want to here wining that I don’t give mac’s a chance, I want constructive prooven with fact responses, not that I’m just a stupid windows user with absolutely no mac experience.

3 thoughts on “another reason I don't want a mac.”

  1. The only reason I don’t think that non-App-Store apps will completely stop working is the whole notion of Unix underpinnings. One of the ways that Apple advertises its systems, particularly its Xserv, to the business-system-buying public is the Unix infrastructure and open standards. Lose the ability to run non-Sandboxed apps, lose the ability to run standard servers like SMTP, FTP, etc.
    Also, Xcode itself is going to have to break sandbox rules, particularly since it uses gcc under the hood. What I’m more likely to see happening is something akin to what’s happening with Windows 8. Metro apps have to include some sort of manifest with their application that lists what … we’ll call them “entitlements” because I can’t remember the term … the aplication requires, and these will govern what Metro APIs the application can use. Non-Metro apps (like, say, Cygwin and VMware) are able to do anything they want to, except make use of Metro APIs. Completely disallowing anything that’s not from the Sandbox would also kill virtualization, which can be integral to any platform that wants to be adopted by enterprise customers moving from a competing platform, or enterprise customers needing to run programs for compatibility with legacy systems.
    Of course, I also allow for the possibility that I’m dead fucking wrong, and in order to run your X Window system terminal, the developer will first need to get permission from Apple to metaphorically go potty by itself. Frankly, Apple would be committing suicide (or, at least, severe self-injury) if it did this, but I suppose it could happen.

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    • in a sense, apple is telling you, if we don’t approve your not getting access to this, this, or this, and if we really hate you you won’t even be able to save files. At least, that’s what I see coming down the pipe. that’s why the iphone has a jailbroken ability. This gives you complete access to the phone, and all it can do. Mac OS will soon have to go that route because if it aint in the app store, you aint gonna use it, and 3rd party plugins? Nope, fuck you. Access to the shell? Nope, die. It’s gonna do what the iphone came out doing, and require some interesting hacks to get around, and believe me, it’ll happen. If you read that article, it’s the feeling I get from that article.

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  2. I don’t tend to get into these sort of things, because it inevitably comes down to guesswork and personal bias/opinion. However, one thing to keep in mind is that iOS and Mac OS have very different philosophies behind them. Granted certain parts are being merged, but at heart they are very different systems. Yes, Apple will probably sandbox app store apps, but there’s no way they’re going to lock us out of the unix core. There are way, way too many people that use the unix terminal more than mac apps, and that’s not likely to change. Apple knows this, so their policy is going to end up being “If you get it straight from us, you know what it can and can’t do. If you choose to get something from someone else, it’s your own fault if you don’t check it out and it fucks up your system.”
    Something else that’s occurred, if it was really this bad, you could kiss things like Garage Band, ProTools, Logic etc. goodbye. And since the biggest draw to the mac by far are those exact apps, Apple is not going to jeopardize that income source. This guy doesn’t seem to be all that well informed, either. He’s going on guesswork, as the updates to the article show, and not running with all the facts. I wouldn’t trust this article very far. None of the big blogs have covered it, and you could bet there’d be some howling if it was going to be as bad as the article claims.
    Anyway, just my two cents. Feel free to disagree if you want, I can’t be bothered getting into an argument over it. Use what you like, avoid what you don’t.

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